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I just set up a Kubuntu system with RealPlayer 10.0.8.805, and it
refuses to squack simultaneously with another noisemaker.  It sulks
silently if kaffeine/kscd/kmix is open, and silences them when it's
playing.  It's opening /dev/dsp directly rather than going through the
sound system.

The setup wizard says, "Alsa and esound drivers are not included in
this build.  The OSS device used for playback can be set using the
AUDIO environment variable. eg export AUDIO=/dev/dsp2."  But I've used
Real on Kububtu and Gentoo before without this problem.

I looked in the dialogs for an output device setting but didn't see
any.  KDE's sound system is usisng the "autodetect" audio device, and
KInfoCenter says, "Installed drivers: type 10 ALSA emulation.  Audio
devices: VIA 8237 (DUPLEX)".

gxine and kaffeine will play RealAudio files, but gxine distorts the
sound in an annoying way, and kaffeine crashes so frequently I forget
I'm not on Windows.  (It even hung the system once with gray vertical
bars on the screen.  I haven't seen that on Linux for years.)

Interestingly, when KMix is open Reaplayer is silent until I close
KMix and restart the audio clip a few times.  But if RealPlayer is
running and I open KMix from the volume control in the tray, I can
adjust the volume with KMIx's PCM slider.

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Hello,

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, Mike Orr wrote:
> I just set up a Kubuntu system with RealPlayer 10.0.8.805, and it
> refuses to squack simultaneously with another noisemaker.  It sulks
> silently if kaffeine/kscd/kmix is open, and silences them when it's
> playing.  It's opening /dev/dsp directly rather than going through the
> sound system.
> 
> The setup wizard says, "Alsa and esound drivers are not included in
> this build.  The OSS device used for playback can be set using the
> AUDIO environment variable. eg export AUDIO=/dev/dsp2."  But I've used
> Real on Kububtu and Gentoo before without this problem.

There is a package called "alsa-oss" which preloads a library that
diverts these "open /dev/dsp" calls. There is probably some way to
enable "alsa-oss-by-default" by fixing the "realplay" startup script,
but in any case you can use the command
``
	aoss realplay &
''
This will start RealPlayer using alsa devices. As long as you don't
close this app it will handle all requests to play the "real" mime
types.

> Interestingly, when KMix is open Reaplayer is silent until I close
> KMix and restart the audio clip a few times.  But if RealPlayer is
> running and I open KMix from the volume control in the tray, I can
> adjust the volume with KMIx's PCM slider.

I haven't found a solution to this one (except to not use KMix!).

Hope this helps,

Kapil.
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:30:59 -0800 (PST)
From: socially teamed <sociallyteamed@yahoo.com>
Subject: microsim/ubuntu 6.06 lts
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 I am having a little trouble intsalling microsim on ubuntu 6.06 lts
 please help me i am very intersted in using your software thank you
 i get this type of message:
```
 t0k3r@t0k3r-laptop:~/Desktop$ cd version-1.0
 t0k3r@t0k3r-laptop:~/Desktop/version-1.0$ ./install
 Make microsim ...
 make: *** No rule to make target
 `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
 Done
 Change ownership ...
 chown: cannot access `microsim': No such file or directory
 Done
 Change permissions ...
 chmod: cannot access `microsim': No such file or directory
 Done
 t0k3r@t0k3r-laptop:~/Desktop/version-1.0$ su
 Password:
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# ./install
 Make microsim ...
 make: *** No rule to make target
 `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
 Done
 Change ownership ...
 chown: cannot access `microsim': No such file or directory
 Done
 Change permissions ...
 chmod: cannot access `microsim': No such file or directory
 Done
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# microsim
 bash: microsim: command not found
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# microSim
 bash: microSim: command not found
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# make install
 make: *** No rule to make target
 `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# make ./install
 make: *** No rule to make target
 `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# Make install
 bash: Make: command not found
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# ./microsim
 bash: ./microsim: No such file or directory
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# microsim.ui
 bash: microsim.ui: command not found
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# ./microsim.ui
 ./microsim.ui: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
 ./microsim.ui: line 1: `<!DOCTYPE UI><UI version="3.3" stdsetdef="1">'
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# ./install
 Make microsim ...
 make: *** No rule to make target
 `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
 Done
 Change ownership ...
 chown: cannot access `microsim': No such file or directory
 Done
 Change permissions ...
 chmod: cannot access `microsim': No such file or directory
 Done
 root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0#
'''

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On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 01:54:13PM -0500, socially teamed <sociallyteamed@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>    I am having a little trouble intsalling microsim on ubuntu 6.06 lts
>    please help me i am very intersted in using your software thank you

Using _our_ software? I'm afraid you've mistaken us for someone else.
We're the Linux Gazette, and we don't publish 'microsim' or any other
software. However, we might be able to help you anyway. :)

>    i get this type of message:
>    t0k3r@t0k3r-laptop:~/Desktop$ cd version-1.0
>    t0k3r@t0k3r-laptop:~/Desktop/version-1.0$ ./install
>    Make microsim ...
>    make: *** No rule to make target
>    `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.

[ The above is followed by random attempts to do... something. ]

>    t0k3r@t0k3r-laptop:~/Desktop/version-1.0$ su
>    root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# ./install
>    root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# microsim
>    root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# microSim
>    root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# make install
>    root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# make ./install
>    root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# Make install
>    root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# ./microsim
>    root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# microsim.ui
>    root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# ./microsim.ui
>    root@t0k3r-laptop:/home/t0k3r/Desktop/version-1.0# ./install

The place to stop would have been as soon as you saw that first error -
just as the message said. The really important thing to understand about
errors is that they're meant to be *read* and *understood*; the above
says that the Makefile - i.e., the configuration file that's read by the
'make' utility - needs 'qmake.conf' to exist at the above location.
Instead of just randomly typing more stuff and hoping that it will
somehow magically work, you need to check to see if that file exists -
it probably does not - and install the package that contains it.

I suggest that you read my article, "Installing Software From Source" in
LG#74, where I explain, in detail, what to do when you run into this
kind of problem. The important part, though, is that you *pay attention*
to the error messages; without that basic requirement, nothing will
help.

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>From a recent Risks-Forum Digest (Monty Solomon, "Cybercrooks Deliver Trouble"):

``
One of the best measures of the rise in cybercrime is junk e-mail, or spam,
because much of it is relayed by computers controlled by Internet criminals,
experts said. More than 90 percent of all e-mail sent online in October was
unsolicited junk mail, according to Postini, an e-mail security firm in San
Carlos, Calif. Spam volumes monitored by Postini rose 73 percent in the past
two months as spammers began embedding their messages in images to evade
junk e-mail filters that search for particular words and phrases. In
November, Postini's spam filters, used by many large companies, blocked 22
billion junk-mail messages, up from about 12 billion in September.
''

Gosh, who could possibly have predicted that content-based filtering
wouldn't work?

http://linuxgazette.net/109/lg_laundrette2.html#nottag/4

http://linuxgazette.net/110/lg_tips.html#tips.8

http://linuxgazette.net/131/moen.html

http://linuxgazette.net/134/lg_mail2.html#srs_development

*LOTS* of other places as well, of course; Rick has been vocal enough
about SPF here, and I strongly suspect elsewhere as well. So have many
other people. It's just that now, the problem is coming to roost in a
big way, and all these people are now scrambling in panic.

Perhaps - one day, after the human race grows up - we'll all have a
reflex that causes us to do the obvious things that prevent problems
instead of focusing all our energies on emergency management. The latter
makes you look like a hero if you pull it off... but the chances of
failure, with attendant chances of damage or death, are high and not
very controllable. For now, we just get to watch the frenzied scrabbling
for a way out, with its usual outcome of mostly-wrong answers.

("I told you so"s may be personally satisfying but don't do much to
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:29:38 +0530
Amit Saha wrote:

> Hi all!
> 
Hi.
> I recently installed FC5 and FC6 on a newly acquired AMD 2800+ Sempron
> processor(64-bit). There are a few things i would like to get cleared
> 
> 1. While the packages were being copied, I noticed the i386 extension
> packages being copied. Isnt i386 supposed to mean intel 80386?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I386

"IA-32, sometimes generically called x86-32, is the instruction set architecture
of Intel's most successful microprocessors.
This is a 32-bit extension of the original Intel x86 processor architecture.
The term means Intel Architecture, 32-bit, distinguishing it from the preceding
16-bit x86 processors, and the later 64-bit architecture IA-64, also known as the Itanium architecture.
IA-32 has had such longevity partially because of full backwards compatibility.
The non-proprietary, generic name for this 32-bit architecture is x86-32."
 
> 2. The FC5 and FC6 that i installed on my 64-bit AMD was also installed on
> my 32-bit celeron. That means i am using 32bit OS on my 64-bit machine
> right? Will i gain performance by using FC5 for 64-bit?

Not FC5/FC6, but should give you some idea: 
"Ubuntu i386 & x86_64 Compared"

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NDEyOQ

Personally, I would take dual/quad core processor over 64-bit one any day :)  

> Which is the best distro to use on AMD sempron 2800+ ?

Define 'best'. 

Pedja
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New year greetings to all :-))

This is no new year resolution to switch from current window manager
but wanted to try my hands on coule of them for my home system.

Couple of them are : iceWM, fluxbox.

But, am finding hard to find the right doc / Google search result to
configure these WMs for FC5.

Can somebody help me here ?

/Ram

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On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 11:44:31PM +0530, Ramanathan Muthaiah wrote:
> New year greetings to all :-))
> 
> This is no new year resolution to switch from current window manager
> but wanted to try my hands on coule of them for my home system.
> 
> Couple of them are : iceWM, fluxbox.
> 
> But, am finding hard to find the right doc / Google search result to
> configure these WMs for FC5.

Well, given the two you've mentioned, I immediately think of:

http://icewm.org/  (Oddly enough has a documentation section).

http://fluxbox.org/ (Oddly enough has a documentation section).

Of course, there's no accounting for just loading up the WM and messing
about with it.

-- Thomas Adam

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> Well, given the two you've mentioned, I immediately think of:
>
> http://icewm.org/  (Oddly enough has a documentation section).
> http://fluxbox.org/ (Oddly enough has a documentation section).

These are the first set of sites, other than others, I browsed thru
the docs / FAQ pages specifically looking for configuration with
Fedora core 5, but could not find anything relevant to address the
problem in question.

Search is still on . . .

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On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 02:42:21AM +0530, Ramanathan Muthaiah wrote:

Hi there,

> > http://icewm.org/  (Oddly enough has a documentation section).
> > http://fluxbox.org/ (Oddly enough has a documentation section).
> 
> These are the first set of sites, other than others, I browsed thru
> the docs / FAQ pages specifically looking for configuration with
> Fedora core 5, but could not find anything relevant to address the
> problem in question.

Without trying to be smart: what's the problem in question?

"I can run a new WM but don't know how to configure it"?

"I can't run a new WM because when I try something, something happens
but I expect something else to happen"?

"I start X using 'startx' and don't know what to change to get a new WM"?

"I start X using a display manager and don't know what to change to get
a new WM"?

"Something else entirely"?

I suspect that when you write down the very specific question you want
to ask, the path to the answer will be much clearer to you. Even if it
leads to another very specific question in short order.

And using words like "fedora change window manager" in a web search
might also point in a helpful direction.

In case it's of any use, I have a file in $PATH with the contents
``
===
#!/bin/sh
startx $(which ${WM:-9wm}) -- :${XSRV:-9} $(which Xnest) -geometry 1024x768 -nolisten tcp
===
''
which allows me play with a window manager in a sort-of-sandbox. Be
aware of the order in which programs see keypresses, though, because
nesting within a "greedy" window manager might cause a head-scratch.

Good luck,

	f
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 11:15:40PM +0000, Francis Daly wrote:
> which allows me play with a window manager in a sort-of-sandbox. Be
> aware of the order in which programs see keypresses, though, because
> nesting within a "greedy" window manager might cause a head-scratch.

That's not the problem; the problem is the fact that Xnest emulates both
an XServer and an XClient, and its implementation as to how key-bindings
are interpreted/propagated within itself and to the underlying XCient
(Xnest in this case) don't always tally -- the confusion lies solely
with Xnest in this regard.

-- Thomas Adam

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On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 07:05:11AM +0000, Thomas Adam wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 11:15:40PM +0000, Francis Daly wrote:

Hi there,

> > which allows me play with a window manager in a sort-of-sandbox. Be
> > aware of the order in which programs see keypresses, though, because
> > nesting within a "greedy" window manager might cause a head-scratch.
> 
> That's not the problem; the problem is the fact that Xnest emulates both
> an XServer and an XClient, and its implementation as to how key-bindings
> are interpreted/propagated within itself and to the underlying XCient
> (Xnest in this case) don't always tally -- the confusion lies solely
> with Xnest in this regard.

That's certainly *a* problem, but wasn't what I was thinking of.

I was more considering where the main window manager handles some
keypresses itself, and where some client of the nested X server,
including the window manager, wants to be able to receive those same
keypresses.

Hopefully the window managers have a mechanism of sending any keypress
through to an app; my point was that in order to send a keypress through
to, for example, a client of the nested X server, you would need to take
account of the mechanisms of both window managers rather than just the
nested one. So it's not a "clean" window manager environment.

And that's because the main window manager gets to handle the keypress
before the nested X server (which then plays its own games before the
nested window manager sees anything).


I lied. I don't use Xnest to play with a window manager. I use it to play
with other applications under a window manager other than the one I
normally use.

And yes, running under Xnest does add some extra wrinkles. "sometimes
sticky control key" is one that catches me, but that could just be a
feature of how I use it.

	f
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On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 09:56:00PM +0000, Francis Daly wrote:
> I was more considering where the main window manager handles some
> keypresses itself, and where some client of the nested X server,
> including the window manager, wants to be able to receive those same
> keypresses.

I've mentioned this many times:

http://linuxgazette.net/114/tag/3.html
 
> Hopefully the window managers have a mechanism of sending any keypress
> through to an app; my point was that in order to send a keypress through
> to, for example, a client of the nested X server, you would need to take
> account of the mechanisms of both window managers rather than just the
> nested one. So it's not a "clean" window manager environment.

That all depends how the window manager handles key-bindings.

Not all of them operate on propagation alone.

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> Without trying to be smart: what's the problem in question?
>
> "I can run a new WM but don't know how to configure it"?
Yes, will be specific with my requirement:

1. Installed iceWM & Fluxbox from their sources

2. Now, I do configure (Xsessions / xinitrc / some other file) to use
one of them as my new window manager

With the current system, I have a graphical login and use KDE.

I tried, after referencing various docs, playing around with files in
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objective.

Hence, my posting to TAG.

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On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 19:50:31 +0530
"Ramanathan Muthaiah" <rus.cahimb@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Without trying to be smart: what's the problem in question?
> >
> > "I can run a new WM but don't know how to configure it"?
> Yes, will be specific with my requirement:
> 
> 1. Installed iceWM & Fluxbox from their sources

Cool.

> 2. Now, I do configure (Xsessions / xinitrc / some other file) to use
> one of them as my new window manager
> 
> With the current system, I have a graphical login and use KDE.

http://starshine.org/xteddy/thomas/fvwm/fvwmchanfaq.html#cf14

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the boards ive seen say it does also im kinda new an defanitly no teckie or coder can ya help i dont use this email any more so pls answer this an send it to gmail its pacman269@gmail.com thanks o if you need to no im tryn to use christian ubuntu and knoppix 5 i guess its the new one out the laptop is a A22m stinkpad ibm bois says 800m an 384mof mem but everest says 647m an 384m for mem so i dont no what one is rite any way you look at it its old........ thanks pac.


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HI,
    I have no CDROM/Floppy. My red-hat linux ISO [ 2.6]are there into 
HDD.Harddisk also contains red-hat linux-kernel2.4
I want to install that 2.6 kernel into hard-disk.
Can  I do this?
In fedora -core while installation we can use From hard-disk.Can i make 
my USB pendrive such that it also boots and asks the location of 
hard-disk.And then continues installation.


Thanxs

Darshak

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Trying to mount my camera, which works fine on Gentoo and I think on
another Kubuntu computer.  /etc/fstab says:

```
/dev/sda1        /mnt/camera    vfat
user,noauto,nodev,dmask=0000,fmask=0666,uid=1000,gid=1000    0 0
'''

(All on one line.)

But when I mount it the permissions are:

```
% ls -l /mnt/camera
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 16384 2006-01-01 00:00 dcim
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 16384 2006-01-01 00:00 misc
% ls -l /mnt/camera/dcim/100_pana/p100054*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1625995 2007-01-06 18:44
/mnt/camera/dcim/100_pana/p1000541.jpg
'''

It's recognizing the user option but ignoring the uid,gid,fmask, and
dmask options.

I set the unmounted directory to mode 777 owned by myself because I
remembered hearing that has some effect on the mount's permissions,
but it didn't make a difference.

I tried mounting it with sudo and without, and removing the uid/gid or
fmask/dmask options, but it didn't help.

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On 1/6/07, Mike Orr <sluggoster@gmail.com> wrote:
> Trying to mount my camera, which works fine on Gentoo and I think on
> another Kubuntu computer.  /etc/fstab says:
>
> ```
> /dev/sda1        /mnt/camera    vfat
> user,noauto,nodev,dmask=0000,fmask=0666,uid=1000,gid=1000    0 0
> '''
>
> (All on one line.)
>
> But when I mount it the permissions are:
>
> ```
> % ls -l /mnt/camera
> total 32
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 16384 2006-01-01 00:00 dcim
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 16384 2006-01-01 00:00 misc
> % ls -l /mnt/camera/dcim/100_pana/p100054*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1625995 2007-01-06 18:44
> /mnt/camera/dcim/100_pana/p1000541.jpg
> '''
>
> It's recognizing the user option but ignoring the uid,gid,fmask, and
> dmask options.
>
> I set the unmounted directory to mode 777 owned by myself because I
> remembered hearing that has some effect on the mount's permissions,
> but it didn't make a difference.
>
> I tried mounting it with sudo and without, and removing the uid/gid or
> fmask/dmask options, but it didn't help.

Well, it's something weird with KDE's automounting.  I noticed a
discrepency between 'mount' (which listed my options) and /proc/mounts
(which listed the different options it was showing), and there were
two entries in /proc/mounts for /dev/sda1.  So I rebooted to clear out
the multiple entries, and noticed it was accessing the camera on boot.
 I get two icons on the desktop, "USB Mass Storage" and "Camera", and
two dialogs asking what I want to open it with.

The "camera" icon goes to /mnt/camera and shows the usual directories;
the "USB Mass Storage" icon goes to "camera://Panasonic Lumix
FZ5@[usb:001,009]/" which shows nothing, and eventually I get an error
"Konqueror: could not read file /".  That's what got me to copy the
fstab line from my old system in the first place.  What's more, as
soon as that window opens, the directory icons disappear in the other
window.  'mount' and /proc/mounts suggest nothing is mounted.  If I
try to mount it manually I get "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does
not exist".

The "Camera" icon I can get rid of with its "Remove safely" menu item,
but the "USB Mass Storage" icon has no unmount option; the closest is
"Delete".  Deleting the icon or moving it into the trash brings up a
"Delete file(s) progress" dialog that hangs at "Initializing camera".

If I unplug the camera, the icon disappears.  If I plug it back in
again, both dialogs reappear ("USB Mass storage interface, medium
type: Camera", and "250M removable media; medium type: unmounted
removable medium".  The options are "Open in new window", "upload
photos to Digikam", and "do nothing".  I choose "Do nothing" for both.
 Now I can mount my camera and it has the proper owner and
permissions, hallelujah.

The two device icons appear when I mount the camera.  They remain when
I unmount it, but disappear when I unplug it.

I comment out the camera line in /etc/fstab, disconnect the camera and
reboot.  When I plug the camera in, I choose "Open in new window" for
"250M Removable media" but *not for "Camera".  This time I get a
proper Konqueror window for "/media/usbdisk".

Well, it works if I remember all those steps, but it's weird.

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Here's another error I've been getting on all my Kubuntu installs:

```
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 171
  Major opcode:  146
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 171
  Major opcode:  146
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device
'''

This happens whenever an X application starts, and sometimes when it
opens a new window.  Apparently it retries a couple times and
succeeds, because I found one application that just gave up and
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X apps I'm currently using

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On 1/6/07, Mike Orr <sluggoster@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, it's something weird with KDE's automounting.

Well, lookee that.  If I set the camera to PTP mode instead of PC
mode, I get only one dialog from KDE, Konqueror opens to "camera://USB
PTP Class Camera@[usb:001,009]/", and it actually contains my
pictures.  The top directory has a summary.txt file that gives some
camera specs:

```
Model: (null)
  device version: 1.0
  serial number:  (null)
Vendor extension ID: 0x00000000
Vendor extension description: (null)
 
Capture Formats:
Display Formats: Association/Directory, Script, DPOF, Apple Quicktime,
JPEG, TIFF
 
Device Capabilities:
	File Download, No File Deletion, File Upload
	No Image Capture, No Open Capture, No vendor specific capture
 
Storage Devices Summary:
store_00010001:
	StorageDescription: None
	VolumeLabel: None
	Storage Type: Removable RAM (memory card)
	Filesystemtype: Digital Camera Layout (DCIM)
	Access Capability: Read-Write
	Maximum Capability: 250085376 (238 MB)
	Free Space (Bytes): 244989952 (233 MB)
	Free Space (Images): 0
 
Device Property Summary:
'''

I'll be jiggered.

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On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 08:27:23PM -0800, Mike Orr wrote:
> Here's another error I've been getting on all my Kubuntu installs:
> 
> ```
> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 171
>   Major opcode:  146

IIRC, that's the wacom stanzas and their refrence in "ServerLayout"

After installing *buntu, I edit the xorg.conf and remove all the Device
stanzas for Wacom, and their correspoinding callout in the "ServerLayout".
Restart X and the errors go away.

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Hi list!
i need your advice. The situation is like this

We have a situation where we have a DEC Alpha Server with a Concurrent
Server which spawns a child to every process that we connect to. On a
Linux box on the same network, we have built a client which connects
to the server ,we see the connection and every things is good. At this
time we try to invoke another instance of the this client, at this
point it kills the first connection and the second one connects. We
are passing the Internet address of the server to connect.

If we have the client on the same server we can spawn multiple
instances and every instance connects, in this case though the address
127.0.0.1 or the local host.

Any pointers as to how we can have multiple client using the same socket.

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Dear Amit Saha
> Hi list!
> i need your advice. The situation is like this
>
>   
let me try my luck...
> We have a situation where we have a DEC Alpha Server with a Concurrent
> Server which spawns a child to every process that we connect to. On a
> Linux box on the same network, we have built a client which connects
> to the server ,we see the connection and every things is good. At this
> time we try to invoke another instance of the this client, at this
> point it kills the first connection and the second one connects. We
> are passing the Internet address of the server to connect.
>
>   

OK, I am stressing to one fact here. Anytime another instance of client 
tries to connect to the DEC Server, the server will kill the previous 
established connection? Do I conclude it correctly?
> If we have the client on the same server we can spawn multiple
> instances and every instance connects, in this case though the address
> 127.0.0.1 or the local host.
>
>   
OK, another point here is, if the connection is made within the same 
server (so the server also acts as the client), everything will run fine 
even though you spawn many instance of clients?

> Any pointers as to how we can have multiple client using the same socket.
>   
I have untested idea. Fork() new instance of clients but make the socket 
descriptor a shared property between those instance. Then, do somekind 
of coordination between these forked clients so whenever one client 
writes, the other waits until it finishes. The same applies on reading 
case, maybe use select() and observe the incoming data to decide which 
client is in charge with the received data.

All in all, in this multiplexing situation, you surely need a tag or 
something to mark the packet destination, I mean to distinguish the real 
acceptor of the packet. IMHO you must do this since the clients use the 
same socket, that means same local port, same socket descriptor and so on.

I hope you do get my explanation correctly. If not, just ask again....

regards,

Mulyadi


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Dear Amit...
> the problem was posted to me by some one else,so i am posting your
> reply to that person.
OK, thanks a lot, I didn't know that. I thought it was you who posted 
the question.

regards,

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On or around Thursday 18 January 2007 06:02, Amit Saha reorganised a bunch of 
electrons to form the message:
> Hi list!
> i need your advice. The situation is like this
>
> We have a situation where we have a DEC Alpha Server with a Concurrent
> Server which spawns a child to every process that we connect to. On a
> Linux box on the same network, we have built a client which connects
> to the server ,we see the connection and every things is good. At this
> time we try to invoke another instance of the this client, at this
> point it kills the first connection and the second one connects. We
> are passing the Internet address of the server to connect.
>
> If we have the client on the same server we can spawn multiple
> instances and every instance connects, in this case though the address
> 127.0.0.1 or the local host.
>
> Any pointers as to how we can have multiple client using the same socket.

Is this C code? 

Obviously something isn't right, but it's hard to comment without more 
details.

Can you show us seeing the code that handles the connections and spawns the 
new process? 

What error code is returned when the first process loses it's connection? You 
do that, don't you?

Have you tried compiling/running the server on another box?

Have you tried the local equivalent of Linux's strace?

Neil Youngman

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I was going back over the past few days of Slashdot, and found this:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/19/216208 , a link to a
review (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9007884)
of online office suites.

The interesting part is that Slashdot also mention Docvert[1]
(http://holloway.co.nz/docvert/index.html), an open source, web based
document converter - not an office suite, but at least the "host my
own" crowd have an option to view word processor documents (if they're
willing to run public-facing software that's based on OpenOffice or
Abiword...)

It's interesting that 3 of the 4 support importing and exporting
OpenOffice files (although ajaxPresents from Ajax13 gives nothing but
errors when you try to export openoffice, though their "own" .appt
format *is* openoffice!).


[1] Albeit in a separate article:
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/18/1422243

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@#$ This was originally entitled something really descriptive like
"help!" I have retitled it with a more informative subject. (This was
also presented in html format rather than text, and responses
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$#@

Hello sir.
                I am projected to develpe a browser/programme to see files attributes (not the file contentes) of linux(ext2/ext3)  from wondows operating sys.
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I've been having problems with my SATA disk for some time and I've moved back 
to working off my old IDE disk, while I investigate the problem. I'm assuming 
the problem is hardware, but I don't have any suitable hardware to swap 
around to prove the point. I think my next step is to buy another SATA 
controller and swap that, but first I thought I'd see if the gang's 
collective wisdom had any pointers to offer.

First off, here's an extract from /var/log/messages as I try to copy a 1.4GB 
file onto the SATA disk.
```
Jan 22 15:52:57 tsr2 kernel: ata2: hard resetting port
Jan 22 15:52:57 tsr2 kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 22 15:52:57 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/100
Jan 22 15:52:57 tsr2 kernel: ata2: EH complete
Jan 22 15:52:57 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
Jan 22 15:52:57 tsr2 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 22 15:52:57 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
Jan 22 15:52:58 tsr2 kernel: ata2: hard resetting port
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/100
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: ata2: EH complete
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: ata2: hard resetting port
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/100
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: ata2: EH complete
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 22 15:52:59 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
Jan 22 15:53:01 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: limiting speed to UDMA/66
Jan 22 15:53:01 tsr2 kernel: ata2: hard resetting port
Jan 22 15:53:02 tsr2 kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 22 15:53:02 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/66
Jan 22 15:53:02 tsr2 kernel: ata2: EH complete
Jan 22 15:53:02 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
Jan 22 15:53:02 tsr2 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 22 15:53:02 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
Jan 22 15:53:04 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: limiting speed to UDMA/44
Jan 22 15:53:04 tsr2 kernel: ata2: hard resetting port
Jan 22 15:53:05 tsr2 kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 22 15:53:05 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/44
Jan 22 15:53:05 tsr2 kernel: ata2: EH complete
Jan 22 15:53:05 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
Jan 22 15:53:05 tsr2 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 22 15:53:05 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
Jan 22 15:53:09 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: limiting speed to UDMA/33
Jan 22 15:53:09 tsr2 kernel: ata2: hard resetting port
Jan 22 15:53:10 tsr2 kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 22 15:53:10 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
Jan 22 15:53:10 tsr2 kernel: ata2: EH complete
Jan 22 15:53:10 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
Jan 22 15:53:10 tsr2 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 22 15:53:10 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
Jan 22 15:53:11 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: limiting speed to UDMA/25
Jan 22 15:53:11 tsr2 kernel: ata2: hard resetting port
Jan 22 15:53:12 tsr2 kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 22 15:53:12 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/25
Jan 22 15:53:12 tsr2 kernel: ata2: EH complete
Jan 22 15:53:12 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
Jan 22 15:53:12 tsr2 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 22 15:53:12 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
Jan 22 15:53:16 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: limiting speed to UDMA/16
Jan 22 15:53:16 tsr2 kernel: ata2: hard resetting port
Jan 22 15:53:17 tsr2 kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 22 15:53:17 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/16
Jan 22 15:53:17 tsr2 kernel: ata2: EH complete
Jan 22 15:53:17 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
Jan 22 15:53:17 tsr2 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 22 15:53:17 tsr2 kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
Jan 22 15:53:18 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: limiting speed to PIO4
Jan 22 15:53:18 tsr2 kernel: ata2: hard resetting port
Jan 22 15:53:19 tsr2 kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 22 15:53:19 tsr2 kernel: ata2.00: configured for PIO4
Jan 22 15:53:19 tsr2 kernel: ata2: EH complete
'''
At this point 46MB has been copied and the machine is effectively hung.

Once I realised I had a problem, i naturally installed smartmontools and this 
is what smartctl tells me.
```
# smartctl -d ata -l selftest /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
 
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1685         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1671         -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1667         -
# 4  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      1661         -
# 5  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1643         -
# 6  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1628         -
# 7  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1613         -
# 8  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1598         -
# 9  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1583         -
#10  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1569         -
#11  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1555         -
#12  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      1549         -
#13  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1538         -
#14  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      1523         -
 
# smartctl -d ata -l error /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
 
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged
 
# 
'''
The lack of any errors suggests to me that the problem is not with the disk, 
hence the thought that I should replace the controller. Is this a reasonable 
conclusion from the data available?

I have tried reseating the controller card and cables and moved the SATA cable 
to the secondary port on the SATA controller. 

Is there anything else I should be trying?

Neil Youngman

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 06:35:25AM +0000, dhaval jadhav wrote:
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> 
>    I dont know from where should i start.please help me.

You should start by reading the materials that were issued to you by your
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:23:58PM +0000, Neil Youngman wrote:
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> # smartctl -d ata -l selftest /dev/sda
> smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> 
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
> Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
> LBA_of_first_error
> # 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1685         -
> # 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1671         -
> # 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1667         -
> # 4  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      1661         -
> # 5  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1643         -
> # 6  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1628         -
> # 7  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1613         -
> # 8  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1598         -
> # 9  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1583         -
> #10  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1569         -
> #11  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1555         -
> #12  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      1549         -
> #13  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1538         -
> #14  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      1523         -
> 
> # smartctl -d ata -l error /dev/sda
> smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> 
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART Error Log Version: 1
> No Errors Logged
> 
> # 
> 
> The lack of any errors suggests to me that the problem is not with the disk, 
> hence the thought that I should replace the controller. Is this a reasonable 
> conclusion from the data available?
> 
> I have tried reseating the controller card and cables and moved the SATA cable 
> to the secondary port on the SATA controller. 
> 
> Is there anything else I should be trying?

I'm wondering what would happen if you ran the above test in a logged
loop while loading the disk - say, by running a large copy operation in
another terminal. You'd build up a pretty good sized logfile after a
while, but you might get some failure info that might point the way to a
solution.

Coming at it from the hardware end, I'd say that you have the right
idea: throwing in a different controller would be a pretty good test.
Shotgunning _does_ make sense as a troubleshooting technique when the
possible number of affected parts is low.


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On 22/01/07, dhaval jadhav <dhaval_hi2003@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
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> operating sys.
> I dont know from where should i start.please help me.
>

Places to start:

http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs

http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm

http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/#ext2fsd

http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/fs/ext2/

http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/fs/ext3/

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Thank you for suggestions
                                           That exactly what i want from you a you said.i m not interested in source codes or any binary files. i was asking for materials or guideline only  .I am not provided any documentation or material from my school.If possible please send any links or material which guide me at this initial stage.


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On 23/01/07, Jimmy O'Regan <joregan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 22/01/07, dhaval jadhav <dhaval_hi2003@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> >
> > Hello sir.
> >               I am projected to develpe a browser/programme to see files
> > attributes (not the file contentes) of linux(ext2/ext3)  from wondows
> > operating sys.
> > I dont know from where should i start.please help me.
> >
>
> Places to start:

Hmm. Maybe if I described what I was linking to, these links may be of
use to some of our readers...

> http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs

Explore2fs is an open source GUI fs explorer for windows that can read ext2/3

> http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm

Ext2IFS is an open source (read only) NT kernel mode driver for Ext2/3
from the author of Explore2fs

> http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/#ext2fsd

A read/write NT kernel mode driver

> http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/fs/ext2/
> http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/fs/ext3/
>

Source of Linux's ext2 & ext3 implementations.

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On 24/01/07, dhaval jadhav <dhaval_hi2003@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Thank you sir.
>                      I have visited the sites yous suggested me.These are
> quite helpfull but at the initial moment i m interested in documentation or
> material from where i can get the information regardoing my work. I dont
> need the source code which you have sent through links.I will glad if i here
> reply again from you. Thanks again.
>

Ext2 documentation project: http://www.nongnu.org/ext2-doc/

Design and Implementation of the Second Extended Filesystem:
http://web.mit.edu/tytso/www/linux/ext2intro.html

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(This is a response to your request for help, opening VA FullON 2230
just printed in Linux Gazette's issue #134.)

The article you read is correct, that it's necessary to remove the
CD-ROM / floppy assembly before getting to the HDs.  Here's how:

Unscrew the two Philips screws on either side of the floppy drive.  
Now, remove the top cover that is atop the rear 3/4 of the chassis's
top surface, so that you can reach the back of the CD drive.  Reaching
inside the chassis, push the CD drive towards the front.  This will
dislodge the six-inch-wide faceplate that houses the CD and floppy
drives, allowing it to slide forward.

A flange on that faceplate projecting sideways towards the hard drives 
is the main obstacle to removing the twelve-inch faceplate in front of
the hard drives, which you now should be able to likewise dislodge
forwards.  That faceplate contains two very noisy, small fans:  FYI,
I've replaced those fans on my unit with quiet aftermarket fans, each
with a slide switch letting you select one of three speeds, making my
house a great deal quieter.

Once you have the twelve-inch faceplate removed, you can reach in from
the front to the four drive bays, a vertical pair on the left and a
similar vertical pair next to that.  Each bay can accomodate a drive
sled that is fastened from the front with a Philips screw in the upper
left.  Once you've removed the screw, the sled and attached drive should
slide forwards.  (You'll want to detach any cables from the drive,
first.)

Speaking for the former staff of VA Linux Systems, I hope you get many
long years of enjoyment from your model 2230.

Best Regards,
Rick Moen


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Hi list,

Hope everyone is well here :-)
I am little bit confused and seeking your guidance. I like to run a virtual 
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like the S/W which gives less overhead to the CPU. occupies less Ram. 
Provides faster speed and performance. In this scenario which will be 
better ? could any one suggest ?

PS: Assume that both the virtual machines running with exactly same number of 
applications.

Please CC to me.

thanks...

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On 01/12/06, J.Bakshi <j.bakshi@icmail.net> wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> Hope everyone is well here :-)
> I am little bit confused and seeking your guidance. I like to run a virtual
> machine for experiment with different S/W. Both UML and vmware are there. I
> like the S/W which gives less overhead to the CPU. occupies less Ram.
> Provides faster speed and performance. In this scenario which will be
> better ? could any one suggest ?

Ah, subjectivity is what you want.  I use both VMWare and UML at work.
 We're just switching over to using UML since that's less strain on
the box that the VMWare server runs.  We found that testing our own
software inside VMWare to be a little hit and miss -- notably that
VMWare crashes a lot, and doesn't always emulate the hardware aspects
as best it might.

So far UML is working out for us great.

Apart from a "me too" reply, was there anything specific you wanted to know?

-- Thomas Adam

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@#$ I have snipped portions of this reply - Kat $#@

> Ah, subjectivity is what you want.  I use both VMWare and
> UML at work.
>  We're just switching over to using UML since that's less
> strain on the box that the VMWare server runs.  We found
> that testing our own software inside VMWare to be a little
> hit and miss -- notably that VMWare crashes a lot, and
> doesn't always emulate the hardware aspects as best it
> might.
> 
> So far UML is working out for us great.
> 
Thanks a lot Thomas for the discussion. Based on this
discussion I like to try UML :-)
thanks once again.


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Hi...

> Hope everyone is well here :-)
> I am little bit confused and seeking your guidance. I like to run a virtual 
> machine for experiment with different S/W. Both UML and vmware are there. I 
> like the S/W which gives less overhead to the CPU. occupies less Ram. 
> Provides faster speed and performance. In this scenario which will be 
> better ? could any one suggest ?
>
> PS: Assume that both the virtual machines running with exactly same number of 
> applications.
>   

between UML and VMware, maybe I tend to pick UML. To get the best of 
UML, I suggest to patch your host kernel with the latest SKAS3 patch. I 
heard the patch is already merged with mainline kernel, but I am not so 
sure. You can also grab the Blaisorblade patchset, this patchset 
includes all the latest patch for UML to be applied on host and the 
guest. Basically UML *may* works better because there is less 
instruction translation involved, it just intercepts the system calls 
and throw it back to UML kernel. On the contrary, VMWare intercepts 
privileged instructions and simulate the work with other unpriviledged 
instruction. So we can say, UML is lighter compared to VMWare, but maybe 
the situation can change if both support the Intel VT/ AMD pacifica 
technology flawlessly

But if you somehow are unable to patch the host kernel, you can try 
SKAS0 mode. It performs less than SKAS3, but still better than the old 
TT mode.

Besides them, I also suggest you to take a look on Linux Vserver, 
Qemu+kqemu/kvm, Xen and openVZ. We can't talk much about them within 
this short e-mail, so I just encourage you to see in case one of them 
fits better with your need.


regards,

Mulyadi



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> Hi...

@#$ I have snipped portions of this reply - Kat $#@

> regards,
> 
> Mulyadi
> 
Thanks a lot for your suggestive discussion.  Most of the
users have voted for UML, so I think I should
go for UML. and yes I have also heard about Xen but don't
have any idea about how superior xen is than UML.
thanks.
> 

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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007, j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> Thanks a lot for your suggestive discussion.  Most of the
> users have voted for UML, so I think I should
> go for UML. and yes I have also heard about Xen but don't
> have any idea about how superior xen is than UML.
> thanks.

The Xen site and the wikipedia have some nice tables explaining some
of the differences between the different virtualisations available.
Here is a brief summary:

1. chroot: Shares process space. File system access is restricted.
   Further restrictions can be imposed by the use of capabilities.
   Does not need kernel changes.

2. vserver: Access to process space is restricted. The use of
   capabilities and contexts is made simpler by vserver-utils.
   Needs kernel changes.

3. UML: run linux as a separate process with a mix of virtual and
   real hardware. Can optimize this process as it is also "linux".
   Does not need root privilege to run. Kernel changes not required
   but are useful.

4. Qemu, VMWare etc.: Run any O/S as a separate process with a mix of
   virtual and real hardware. Harder to optimize but due to some
   recent changes to CPU support for virtualisation this can be run a
   bit faster than it could be before. Does not need root privilege to run.

5. Xen: run linux and other O/S's as separate processes with lower overhead
   by means of the Xen virtualisation interface. This can also make
   use the CPU support for virtualisation. Needs changes to "base"
   kernel to run.

In the case of 3-5 the "process" kernel version can be different from
the "base" kernel.

Regards,

Kapil.
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> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007, j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> > Thanks a lot for your suggestive discussion.  Most of
> > the users have voted for UML, so I think I should
> > go for UML. and yes I have also heard about Xen but
> > don't have any idea about how superior xen is than UML.
> > thanks.
> 
> The Xen site and the wikipedia have some nice tables
> explaining some of the differences between the different
> virtualisations available. Here is a brief summary:

@#$ I have snipped portions of this reply - Kat $#@

wow !! this is a great mini article :-)
thanks a lot for sharing the information.

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Dear list,

hope every one is well in the new year and charged to do
more with linux :-)

I have a critical problem with my net setting and searching
for some kind guidance.

well, I have 2 ISP and a load balancing router ( Linksys
RV042).
My one ISP, say ISP1 is based on ADSL technology. The modem
to dialup ISP1 is
smartATX MT841 and it has inbuilt dialing feature. so a
connection from this 
smartATX MT841 direcly comes to WAN1 port the of the load
balancing router.

another ISP, say ISP2. now there is a PC with 2 lan card for
this isp2. one lan dialups
ISP2 and another lan card from this same machine fed this
connection to the WAN2 port
of the load balancing router.

till now there is no problem at all and the load balancing
feature is running great.

BUT the problem is with the PC which dialups the ISP2 and
fed the connection to 
the load balancing router. it actually behaves like a modem.
so the user in that machine
can't share the local lan resources and we can't share the
resources of that PC.

could any one kindly suggest any solution please ?
thanks for the support.

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I have forgot to mention that,
kindly CC to me.

thanks 

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Dear list,

I am running a PC having suse 10.  I have 2 lan card here
and like to configure 2 cards with different setting.
I have tried to configure the cards using Yast, but the
problem is ; 2 cards taking the same DNS, gateway etc from
the configuration which 
I make latter.  I think there may be some problem in yast,
so I like to do it manually. could any one suggest me the
file in suse 10 where I can 
write configuration for eth0 and eth1 and could any one
kindly provide an example configuration :-)

thanks in advanced.

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On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:39:23PM -0800, j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> kindly CC to me.
> =================
> 
> Dear list,
> 
> I am running a PC having suse 10.  I have 2 lan card here
> and like to configure 2 cards with different setting.
> I have tried to configure the cards using Yast, but the
> problem is ; 2 cards taking the same DNS, gateway etc from
> the configuration which 
> I make latter.  I think there may be some problem in yast,
> so I like to do it manually. could any one suggest me the
> file in suse 10 where I can 
> write configuration for eth0 and eth1 and could any one
> kindly provide an example configuration :-)

You probably want something more like:

```
route add default gw 192.178.70.23 dev eth1
'''

I don't remember where SuSE spits out such information.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
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Subject: Re: [TAG] problem configuring 2 lan with YAST in
suse 10
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:56:48 +0000

> On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:39:23PM -0800,
> > j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote: kindly CC to me.
> > =================
> > 
> > Dear list,
> > 
> > I am running a PC having suse 10.  I have 2 lan card
> > here and like to configure 2 cards with different
> > setting. I have tried to configure the cards using Yast,
> > but the problem is ; 2 cards taking the same DNS,
> > gateway etc from the configuration which 
> > I make latter.  I think there may be some problem in
> > yast, so I like to do it manually. could any one suggest
> > me the file in suse 10 where I can 
> > write configuration for eth0 and eth1 and could any one
> > kindly provide an example configuration :-)
> 
> You probably want something more like:
> 
> ```
> route add default gw 192.178.70.23 dev eth1
> '''
Thanks Thomas for the info. yes default gw is a must to
have. the place where suse stores eth info 
is /etc/sysconfig/network ; I have just discoverd.  But I
like to ask you one more thing. I have 2 lan cards.
when I set eth0 as DHCP enable then my firefox and ping
command are running (from eth0) but when 
I disable eth0 and enable eth1 to dialup my adsl connection
I can see the welcome message as a successful
connection but then the browser doesn't fire up and ping is
not working bcoz it still do all query based on
eth0. How can I configure my system that ping and browser
work based on eth1 ?

thanks.

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  kindly CC to me
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Dear list,

here is the actual situation which I like to share with you.
I have a Suse10 box with 2 lan card.  I also have a 10 port
HUB.
Now I like to dial my ISP with one lan card and another lan
will be connected with the HUB. hence the other PCs can
share the net connection from the HUB.  I like to implement
this. Could any one suggest any tutorial or suggest me to do
this ??

thanks for your support.

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:43:52 -0800
j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> here is the actual situation which I like to share with you.
> I have a Suse10 box with 2 lan card.  I also have a 10 port
> HUB.
> Now I like to dial my ISP with one lan card and another lan
> will be connected with the HUB. hence the other PCs can
> share the net connection from the HUB.  I like to implement
> this. Could any one suggest any tutorial or suggest me to do
> this ??

Assuming you configured your two interfaces. 

In SuSE 9.1 you go yast and security->firewall, reconfigure, next, next
and check [x] forward traffic and do masquerading

You should do this on the internal interface I think....


K.-H.

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Kindly CC to me
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Subject: Re: [TAG] how to share internet from a linux server
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:44:46 +0100 (MET)

> On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:43:52 -0800
> j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> > here is the actual situation which I like to share with
> > you. I have a Suse10 box with 2 lan card.  I also have a
> > 10 port HUB.
> > Now I like to dial my ISP with one lan card and another
> > lan will be connected with the HUB. hence the other PCs
> > can share the net connection from the HUB.  I like to
> > implement this. Could any one suggest any tutorial or
> > suggest me to do this ??
> 
> Assuming you configured your two interfaces. 
> 
> In SuSE 9.1 you go yast and security->firewall,
> reconfigure, next, next and check [x] forward traffic and
> do masquerading
> 
> You should do this on the internal interface I think....
> 
Dear Karl-Heinz,

I have done this but no positive result yet. let me allow to
tell you everything which I have done step by step.

1] the card called eth0 is used to dial up my isp. here is
the configuration
``
             isp 10.10.96.56
             mask 255.0.0.0
             gateway 10.10.0.1
''

I have no problem to dial up my isp using eth0 by the linc
client.  and getting the net here.  fine..

2] now my 2nd lan called eth1 has the setting
``
     ip 192.168.0.2
     mask 255.255.255.0
''

3] I have a linksys RV042 load balancing router which have 2
uplink port.
     I have configured one uplink with ip 192.168.0.114  and
 mask 255.255.255.0
     and connect this port with eth1

4]     now I executed these command
``
   #Clears if any old iptable rules/ policies are there.
              iptables --flush -t nat

 # Now we will do Masquerading ie. we are doing NAT.
           iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING
--out-interface ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
           iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface eth0 -j
ACCEPT

 # Enabling packet forwarding.
          echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 
''

but not getting any connection from client machine.

even I tried to ping from the linux server like
     ping 192.168.0.114  ( the uplink of router)  but
destination was not reacable.

Please suggest how can I solve the problem. pointing out any
tutorial is also welcome.
thanks


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Hello,

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> 3] I have a linksys RV042 load balancing router which have 2
> uplink port.
>      I have configured one uplink with ip 192.168.0.114  and
>  mask 255.255.255.0
>      and connect this port with eth1

What is a load balancing router doing *inside* the LAN? I think you
should be using a HUB/switch. Here is a little diagram
``
	-----[ eth0: Linux nat box : eth1]----[ Hub/switch ]---[LAN]
''
Is this not what you want? Perhaps I understood your question wrong.

> Please suggest how can I solve the problem. pointing out any
> tutorial is also welcome.

Have a look at the howtos on the iptables site.

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Subject: Re: [TAG] how to share internet from a linux server
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 06:46:33 -0800

> Hello,
> 
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> > 3] I have a linksys RV042 load balancing router which
> > have 2 uplink port.
> >      I have configured one uplink with ip 192.168.0.114 
> >  and mask 255.255.255.0
> >      and connect this port with eth1
> 
> What is a load balancing router doing *inside* the LAN? I
> think you should be using a HUB/switch. Here is a little
> diagram
> 
>     -----[ eth0: Linux nat box : eth1]----[ Hub/switch
> ]---[LAN]
> 
> Is this not what you want? Perhaps I understood your
> question wrong.

OK here is the diagram of my setting

``
24online isp -------->[ eth0(used to dial isp) linux   eth1]
----->[ wan2 of load balancing router]-------->[hub]------->
clients PC
''



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Subject: Re: [TAG] how to share internet from a linux server
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 06:46:33 -0800

> Hello,
> 
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> > 3] I have a linksys RV042 load balancing router which
> > have 2 uplink port.
> >      I have configured one uplink with ip 192.168.0.114 
> >  and mask 255.255.255.0
> >      and connect this port with eth1
> 
> What is a load balancing router doing *inside* the LAN? I
> think you should be using a HUB/switch. Here is a little
> diagram
> 
>     -----[ eth0: Linux nat box : eth1]----[ Hub/switch
> ]---[LAN]
> 
> Is this not what you want? Perhaps I understood your
> question wrong.

may be this provide more clear view

``
isp 1--->[ eth0(used to dial isp1) linux eth1]---> [wan2
port of router] -----> [hub]--> client PCs
  
now here is the setting of eth1
-----------------------------------------------------
ip ---> 192.168.0.2
mask --> 255.255.255.0
gateway --> gateway of eth0
dns ----> dns of eth0
  
  
here is the setting of wan2 port of load balancing router
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ip ----> 192.168.0.114
mask ----> 255.255.255.0
gateway ----> 192.168.0.2 (ip of the linux lan card)
dns ------> 192.168.0.2
  
Here is the setting of the hub section of the router
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ip ----> 192.168.1.2
mask ---> 255.255.255.0
dual wan ----> wan1 wan2
  
wan1 and wan2 has their own setting as I also mentioned the
wan2 above.
  
clients pc settings
-----------------------------------
DHCP enable. bcoz the load balancing router has DHCP server
inbuilt gateway ---> 192.168.1.2
  
 
here is the script I use in my suse 10
  
iptables --flush -t nat
iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface
eth0 -j MASQUERADE
iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface eth1 -j ACCEPT
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
''

after executing the script I have tried from the clients pc
with out success.
Could any one kindly point out my mistake ?
please note I am getting the internet from the linux pc
which dialup isp1


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Hello,

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> isp 1--->[ eth0(used to dial isp1) linux eth1]---> [wan2
> port of router] -----> [hub]--> client PCs

I still think that putting the router in the middle is needless
source of confusion in your network. You *can* use it as a DHCP
server even if you link eth1 directly to the hub and use just one
port of your router also connected to the hub. 

Still, the network layout as you gave it, *can* work if configured
properly.

> now here is the setting of eth1
> -----------------------------------------------------
> ip ---> 192.168.0.2
> mask --> 255.255.255.0
> gateway --> gateway of eth0
> dns ----> dns of eth0
<snipped a lot of stuff>

> clients pc settings
> -----------------------------------
> DHCP enable. bcoz the load balancing router has DHCP server
> inbuilt
> gateway ---> 192.168.1.2
<snipped a lot of stuff>

> Could any one kindly point out my mistake ?

What is the Linux box to do when it has a packet which is destined
for 192.168.1.x?

As far as I can make out from your description that packet is
destined for eth0!

Thus you need to have a route on your Linux box
``
	route add -net 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.144
''
(where 192.168.0.144 is the address of your router port which is
connect to the box). Now, if your wan router is configured to do this
it will send the packets to the correct machine.

Regards,

Kapil.
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Subject: Re: [TAG] how to share internet from a linux server
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 07:52:33 -0800

> Hello,
> 
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> > isp 1--->[ eth0(used to dial isp1) linux eth1]---> [wan2
> > port of router] -----> [hub]--> client PCs
> 
> I still think that putting the router in the middle is
> needless source of confusion in your network. You *can*
> use it as a DHCP server even if you link eth1 directly to
> the hub and use just one port of your router also
> connected to the hub. 
> 
> Still, the network layout as you gave it, *can* work if
> configured properly.
> 
> > now here is the setting of eth1
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > ip ---> 192.168.0.2
> > mask --> 255.255.255.0
> > gateway --> gateway of eth0
> > dns ----> dns of eth0
> <snipped a lot of stuff>
> 
> > clients pc settings
> > -----------------------------------
> > DHCP enable. bcoz the load balancing router has DHCP
> > server inbuilt
> > gateway ---> 192.168.1.2
> <snipped a lot of stuff>
> 
> > Could any one kindly point out my mistake ?
> 
> What is the Linux box to do when it has a packet which is
> destined for 192.168.1.x?
> 
> As far as I can make out from your description that packet
> is destined for eth0!
> 
Please note ( as I mentioned in my previous mail) that  the 
only reason using the linux box with 2 lan is eth0 is used
to
dial up the 24online isp and then eth1 is used to redirect
the connection 
into the wan port of the router.
the utility of this router, it is a load balancing router
with 2 wan port.
one wan port is connected with data one BSNL connection
and the other port I am trying to connect with 24online
hence 
I'll get a load balancing setup. but I can't take out the
24online from the linux box due to configuration problem :-(



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j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> Please note ( as I mentioned in my previous mail) that  the 
> only reason using the linux box with 2 lan is eth0 is used
> to
> dial up the 24online isp and then eth1 is used to redirect
> the connection 
> into the wan port of the router.
> the utility of this router, it is a load balancing router
> with 2 wan port.
> one wan port is connected with data one BSNL connection
> and the other port I am trying to connect with 24online
> hence 
> I'll get a load balancing setup. but I can't take out the
> 24online from the linux box due to configuration problem :-(
>   
I think most people on this list have politely been trying to point out
to you that they don't think that the config of your linux server is
causing the problems here.
I think that the router which is between your lan and your linux server
is causing the problems.

A simple way to test this is:

1. Leave the server as is.

2. Remove the router, plug the cable from the linux server straight into
the hub/switch

3. Configure one client with the same ip-address as before but assign it
statically (by hand) instead of with dhcp.

4. Test if you can reach your linux-server.

5. Test if you can reach an IPADDRESS on the internet (f.e. ping
194.109.21.51 )

If the above steps work, your router is at fault.
If they do not, your router MAY STILL BE the faulty part in the setup,
but your linux server isn't setup correctly AS WELL !

After you get the server working correctly, it's much easier to setup
the router.
Debugging one component at a time works better than debugging two.

Regards,

Ramon

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Subject: Re: [TAG] how to share internet from a linux server
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:01:45 +0100

> j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> > Please note ( as I mentioned in my previous mail) that 
> > the  only reason using the linux box with 2 lan is eth0
> > is used to
> > dial up the 24online isp and then eth1 is used to
> > redirect the connection 
> > into the wan port of the router.
> > the utility of this router, it is a load balancing
> > router with 2 wan port.
> > one wan port is connected with data one BSNL connection
> > and the other port I am trying to connect with 24online
> > hence 
> > I'll get a load balancing setup. but I can't take out
> > the 24online from the linux box due to configuration
> >   problem :-( 
> I think most people on this list have politely been trying
> to point out to you that they don't think that the config
> of your linux server is causing the problems here.
> I think that the router which is between your lan and your
> linux server is causing the problems.
> 
> A simple way to test this is:
> 
> 1. Leave the server as is.
> 
> 2. Remove the router, plug the cable from the linux server
> straight into the hub/switch
> 
> 3. Configure one client with the same ip-address as before
> but assign it statically (by hand) instead of with dhcp.
> 
> 4. Test if you can reach your linux-server.
> 
> 5. Test if you can reach an IPADDRESS on the internet
> (f.e. ping 194.109.21.51 )
> 
> If the above steps work, your router is at fault.
> If they do not, your router MAY STILL BE the faulty part
> in the setup, but your linux server isn't setup correctly
> AS WELL !
> 
Thanks a lot for the approach u have mentioned :-)
I have plugged the linux box directly into the hub and setup
a client machine accordingly ( with ip , dns and gw) and
successfully
surfed the net :-)   yahoo, so I am sharing the net
connection from the linux
box :-) 

and now I have to confogure the router so that it can be a
load balancing one
with 2 isp. the wan2 port which is attached with the linux
box is

``
wan2 configuration
----------------------------------
ip ----> 192.168.0.114
mask ----> 255.255.255.0
gateway ----> 192.168.0.2 (ip of the linux lan card)
dns ------> 192.168.0.2
''

I think here I have to verify.

thanks to all responders to atleast fell some success.


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   kindly cc to me
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Dear list,

hope every one is happy with linux :-)

Ok . now I have a little bit of problem with linux. my linux
server has a cd writer and
a DVD writer. the server already has samba. now what can I
do in my smb.conf file 
so that windows clients can use both the writers of the
linux server ?

could any one plese suggest any thing ?

thanks and wish all happy linuxing :-)


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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:21:27 -0800
j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> Ok . now I have a little bit of problem with linux. my linux
> server has a cd writer and
> a DVD writer. the server already has samba. now what can I
> do in my smb.conf file 
> so that windows clients can use both the writers of the
> linux server ?

As far as I am aware -- you can't. At least not via samba. On the other
hand there is a remote-daemon from cdrecord (see Joerg Schillings
webpage) and -- probably quite close to what you want -- webCDcreator
(webCDwriter it seems its called now):
http://joerghaeger.de/webCDwriter/

This lets you collect your files in a platform-independent java-program,
sends them through to the target computer and burns the stuff. 

In my experience better from Win than from Linux because Debian et al do
not have the right java engines and its a pain in the ass to get them to
work in Linux. In windows you just need some working java installation
it seems.


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> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:21:27 -0800
> j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> > Ok . now I have a little bit of problem with linux. my
> > linux server has a cd writer and
> > a DVD writer. the server already has samba. now what can
> > I do in my smb.conf file 
> > so that windows clients can use both the writers of the
> > linux server ?
> 
> As far as I am aware -- you can't. At least not via samba.
> On the other hand there is a remote-daemon from cdrecord
> (see Joerg Schillings webpage) and -- probably quite close
> to what you want -- webCDcreator (webCDwriter it seems its
> called now): http://joerghaeger.de/webCDwriter/
> 
> This lets you collect your files in a platform-independent
> java-program, sends them through to the target computer
> and burns the stuff. 
>
Thanks for the fantastic solution and link. I must give ut a
try.

 
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Dear list,

I am facing a really critical problem since last one weak. 
My server is running XAMPP for linux. 
Now the users are accessing the server and doing their
project work using dreamweaver from win PC.

but frequently they see the message "This file has been
modified outside of Dreamweaver. Do you want to reload it"

I am 100% confirm that there is no one elese who is working
on a particular file. if they accept yes all their
modification has been lost.
Is there any problem in the Linux server or Xampp ?

has any one experienced such a problem ? please suggest.
thanks.

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On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:23:47PM -0800, j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> I am facing a really critical problem since last one weak. 
> My server is running XAMPP for linux. 
> Now the users are accessing the server and doing their
> project work using dreamweaver from win PC.
> 
> but frequently they see the message "This file has been
> modified outside of Dreamweaver. Do you want to reload it"
> 
> I am 100% confirm that there is no one elese who is working
> on a particular file. if they accept yes all their
> modification has been lost.

What does this have to do with Linux?

Let's recap what is happening. One of your users uses a Wind0ws
application, "Dreamweaver", to "open" (really to download and edit a
temporary copy) a file from your server. That is, some fraction of a
second after they click "Edit", your server is out of the loop: once it
sends that file, it doesn't have anything to do with your user.

So, that user - on that Wind0ws machine, and using a Wind0ws app - opens
a temporary file somewhere in the Wind0ws filesystem. Some time later,
the Wind0ws application pops up a Wind0ws dialog about a modified file.

Perhaps Linux is at fault because it's in the same building?


-- 
* Ben Okopnik * Editor-in-Chief, Linux Gazette * http://LinuxGazette.NET *

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Quoting j.bakshi@icmail.net (j.bakshi@icmail.net):

> My server is running XAMPP for linux. 

Just for clarification's sake, XAMPP is not a single thing in itself,
but rather a preconfigured bundle of Apache httpd, MySQL, PHP, Perl,
ProFTPd, OpenSSL, gdbm, SQLite, gettext, mcrypt, Freetype2, 
IMAP C-Client, phpMyAdmin, and a bunch of support libs.

> Now the users are accessing the server and doing their
> project work using dreamweaver from win PC.
> 
> but frequently they see the message "This file has been
> modified outside of Dreamweaver. Do you want to reload it"

Well, use basic troubleshooting to try to determine what's going on.
Use the Dreamweaver client to check in a file.  Figure out where it's
getting stored.  If it's being stored in a MySQL table (which would be
odd, but conceivable), you'll need to hunt it down there, and check 
the values in that record.  If it's a regular file (which seems a lot
more likely), take note of its size and modification time stamp -- and
you might want to just make a copy of it in /tmp or somewhere.

Now, attempt to replicate the problem:  Modify your local workstation
copy in Dreamweaver, then try to check it in.  Does Dreamweaver now
claim that the server's copy has been modified?  If so, _has_ it been 
modified?  What modifications?

If Dreamweaver claims the server-end copy has been modified, and yet you
verify that it hasn't, then you have a Dreamweaver problem and need to
concentrate on that.  If Dreamweaver _doesn't_ claim that the server-end
copy's changed, then you haven't yet relicated the symptom, and need to
keep trying until you figure out how.  (Problems whose symptoms you
cannot replicate are difficult to solve, as you cannot observe them.)

If Dreamweaver claims the server-end file's changed, and you _confirm_
that it's changed, now you need to study your server setup -- and the
nature of the changes made, when they were made, etc. -- to figure out
what's changing the file, and why.

See?  It's not magic.  I didn't need to know anything in particular
about the XAMPP bundle, to give you that analysis.  It's just basic 
everyday troubleshooting:  Break large problems into a series of smaller
problems, identify suspects, eliminate variables, stop periodically to 
assess what you know and what you don't, carefully introduce changes to
the test scenario to observe what results, that sort of thing.

> has any one experienced such a problem ? 

When you ask questions about highly specialised configurations, it's
really, really unlikely that anyone's experienced the same problem,
because it's highly unlikely anyone's running the same environment.

E.g, I have plenty of experience with Apache httpd, MySQL, PHP, Perl,
and phpMyAdmin -- but zero experience with Dreamweaver and zero with the
megabundle you're wrestling with.  Others here probably are in a similar
situation.  So, my point is:  You're not asking a very useful question
when you ask, in effect, is there anyone here who's running the very
same thing I am and has encountered this exact same problem?  You're
extremely likely to get null answers, which means your question was a
waste of your and others' time.

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Cc: Kapil Hari Paranjape <kapil@imsc.res.in>
Subject: Re: [TAG] how to share internet from a linux server
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:01:45 +0100

> j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> > Please note ( as I mentioned in my previous mail) that 
> > the  only reason using the linux box with 2 lan is eth0
> > is used to
> > dial up the 24online isp and then eth1 is used to
> > redirect the connection 
> > into the wan port of the router.
> > the utility of this router, it is a load balancing
> > router with 2 wan port.
> > one wan port is connected with data one BSNL connection
> > and the other port I am trying to connect with 24online
> > hence 
> > I'll get a load balancing setup. but I can't take out
> > the 24online from the linux box due to configuration
> >   problem :-( 
> I think most people on this list have politely been trying
> to point out to you that they don't think that the config
> of your linux server is causing the problems here.
> I think that the router which is between your lan and your
> linux server is causing the problems.
> 
> A simple way to test this is:
> 
> 1. Leave the server as is.
> 
> 2. Remove the router, plug the cable from the linux server
> straight into the hub/switch
> 
> 3. Configure one client with the same ip-address as before
> but assign it statically (by hand) instead of with dhcp.
> 
> 4. Test if you can reach your linux-server.
> 
> 5. Test if you can reach an IPADDRESS on the internet
> (f.e. ping 194.109.21.51 )
> 
> If the above steps work, your router is at fault.
> If they do not, your router MAY STILL BE the faulty part
> in the setup, but your linux server isn't setup correctly
> AS WELL !
> 
> After you get the server working correctly, it's much
> easier to setup the router.
> Debugging one component at a time works better than
> debugging two.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ramon

Finally SUCCESS !! I have configured the router wan2 port as
[obtain ip automatically] and every thing is working great.

Thanks to the list for its valuable guidance and baring with
me with the problem.
thanks and honour to the list.

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j.bakshi@icmail.net wrote:
> Finally SUCCESS !! I have configured the router wan2 port as
> [obtain ip automatically] and every thing is working great.
>
> Thanks to the list for its valuable guidance and baring with
> me with the problem.
> thanks and honour to the list.
>   
Nice to hear it worked.

Just curious, you are aware that linux can do the routers task without
any problems ?
You are also aware that in case of a breakage of one of your internet
lines will most likely result in some loss of traffic with any
load-balancing setup ?

In nearly all cases renewal of the request will succeed afterwards due
to the loadbalancing.
But if you are building this for a system with a transactional nature
this is something you should be aware of.

Best regards,

Ramon

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First of all thanks to Ramon van Alteren for make me
familiar with some more linux router features.

now one more question is flying around my linux head :-)
I have seen in suse that after plugin the usb pen drive ;
konqueror fires up automatically opening the drive.
I like to know the inner secret so that I can implement this
in my debian linux box. 

thanks,
Happy Linuxing

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On 1/16/07, j.bakshi@icmail.net <j.bakshi@icmail.net> wrote:
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> now one more question is flying around my linux head :-)
> I have seen in suse that after plugin the usb pen drive ;
> konqueror fires up automatically opening the drive.
> I like to know the inner secret so that I can implement this
> in my debian linux box.

Hi,

This isn't a distro specific thing specifically, it's more related to
your KDE installation.
Take a look in the Control Center, and see if you can find a page to
change the default actions.  Also, try getting a newer version of KDE,
if you are brave enough.  There are some more thngs that need to be
installed however, but I've found those
things to be included on recent distros.  I forget exactly what right
now.  Anyways, hope that helps.

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> On 1/16/07, j.bakshi@icmail.net <j.bakshi@icmail.net>
> > now one more question is flying around my linux head :-)
> > I have seen in suse that after plugin the usb pen drive 
> > ; konqueror fires up automatically opening the drive.
> > I like to know the inner secret so that I can implement
> > this in my debian linux box.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This isn't a distro specific thing specifically, it's more
> related to your KDE installation.
[...]

Thanks. I expected to tweaking the hotplug daemon . any how
as u 
suggessted to looking the recent kde I'll look into it.

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